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FILM IN 140 PANEL SERIES: I THOUGHT THE PRODUCER JUST FINDS THE MONEY?

By Mark Bell | March 14, 2011

On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 from 9-10pm EST, our Film in 140 Panel topic was “I Thought The Producer Just Finds The Money?” The transcript is below.

For new (and not so new) screenwriters/directors, that is the thought. Finding money is important, but that isn’t the extent of a producer’s job. They might collaborate on script issues, help structure financial models and business plans, find a first rate (and affordable) cast and crew, deal with mountains of contracts and paperwork, secure locations and permits before even one minute of film is shot. They work tirelessly to get a film shot, off of the hard drive and in front of the public. For independent filmmakers, there’s probably no position more valuable in keeping a project alive and creatively intact. While directors and actors come and go, you’ll often find the same producers appearing over and over again.

PANELISTS

  • Miranda Bailey, (@Ambushent): Producer, actress and documentary filmmaker. Since forming Ambush Entertainment in 2000, Bailey produced the cult hit “Dead & Breakfast” starring Jeremy Sisto, Portia de Rossi and Jeffrey Dean Morgan, the 2006 sex comedy “The OH in Ohio”, featuring Danny DeVito, Parker Posey and Paul Rudd. She executive produced 2005’s award-winning critically acclaimed drama “The Squid and the Whale” which was a Best Original Screenplay nominee at the 2006 Academy Awards and 2006 Golden Globe for Best Picture (comedy or musical) nominee. Bailey also produced SUPER.
  • Ted Hope, (@tedhope): A survey of Hope’s films, numbering over sixty, includes many highlights and breakthroughs of the last two decades. As generative as he is with movies, Ted is no less so in business; Ted co-founded and ran the 90’s production & sales powerhouse Good Machine, which he and his partners sold to Universal in 2002. Good Machine was honored by a retrospective at the Museum Of Modern Art in 2001. Hope subsequently co-founded the New York production company This is that with his former assistant Anthony Bregman and Anne Carey. In its eight years, This is that produced eighteen features, receiving numerous awards, including four Academy Award Best Screenplay nominations. One of Hope’s recent productions, SUPER, written and directed by James Gunn, and starring Rainn Wilson, Ellen Page, Liv Tyler and Kevin Bacon will be released by Focus Features on April 1.
  • Thomas Woodrow, (@thomaswoodrow:Thomas is a Brooklyn-based independent film producer, whose most recent film in release was BASS ACKWARDS, which premiered at the 2010 Sundance Film Festival, distributed concurrent with the festival by New Video, in an unprecedented move. Thomas was a 2009/10 Sundance Producing Fellow as well as a 2010 IFP/Rotterdam Producing Fellow. He is in development on a number of projects, including the character-driven comedy THE SKELETON TWINS, Craig Johnson’s follow-up to TRUE ADOLESCENTS, starring Anna Faris, Bill Hader and Mark Duplass as well as several writing projects of his own.

PANEL TRANSCRIPT

@Filmin140Panel Welcome to tonight’s panel! Our topic is “I Thought the Producer Just Finds the Money?” #filmin140 -8:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@60secondsoap @filmmakingstuff, @blindlylefilms, @theymakefilms Counting 3 #filmin140 -9:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel You can follow along with the conversation at TweetChat (http://bit.ly/abFubH) or at Film Threat #filmin140 -9:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel Our panelists tonight are Producer, actress and documentary filmmaker Miranda Bailey @ambushent #filmin140 -9:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@channel_tweet RT @FilmThreat: Tonight’s #filmin140 producing panel w/@TedHope @ambushent & @thomaswoodrow starts in 25 minutes! http://t.co/lwbLKJK Use TweetChat! #fb -9:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr RT @Filmin140Panel: You can follow along with the conversation at TweetChat (http://bit.ly/abFubH) or at Film Threat #filmin140 -9:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel producer and film blogger Ted Hope @TedHope #filmin140 -9:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent If all I had to do was find the $ life sure would be easier. #filmin140 -9:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel independent film producer Thomas Woodrow @thomaswoodrow #filmin140 -9:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel Though we have panelists, multiple voices are welcome, so join in the discussion! #filmin140 -9:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @ambushent: If all I had to do was find the $ life sure would be easier. #filmin140 #producing -9:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel Okay, first question for the panelists, tell us what path led you to producing? schooling, acting, directing? #filmin140 -9:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@theauteursG RT @elizabethkarr: RT @Filmin140Panel: You can follow along with the conversation at TweetChat (http://bit.ly/abFubH) or at Film Threat #filmin140 -9:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

writeasong RT @atlfilm365: RT @ambushent: If all I had to do was find the $ life sure would be easier. #filmin140 #producing -9:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@60secondsoap @MingleTVNetwork Signed on to a producer tweetchat with @TedHope, @ambushent & @thomaswoodrow http://t.co/lwbLKJK #filmin140 -9:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I started as an actor, then realized the director has more control than the actor. And a director who can’t also produce… #filmin140 -9:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow …is always at the mercy of those who can/do. #filmin140 -9:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent I started as an actress. I produced theater first. I don’t think I ever meant to be a producer, but looks like now I am- It’s fun #filmin140 -9:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FMReloaded RT @Filmin140Panel: Welcome to tonight’s panel! Our topic is “I Thought the Producer Just Finds the Money?” #filmin140 -9:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr Question for Panel: What is your experience attaching talent before financing in place. #filmin140 -9:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel I am messaged that Ted will be a little late, but definitely coming so we’ll be patient on that. #filmin140 -9:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent did you produce so you could act? #filmin140 -9:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent when you are an artist the only way to get s**t made is to make it yourself. i think a lot of people realize this at some point. #filmin140 -9:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @ambushent @thomaswoodrow Do you think acting gave you good grounding in film that prepared you for producing? #filmin140 -9:06 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent it is hard to attach talent w/o financing if you do not have direct relationships. Agents r not helpful w/o $. #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @ambushent Mirrors my path exactly – #actress #theatre producer #film producer (@RFAmovie) #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent that’s the secret. Don’t ask permission. #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @ambushent: it is hard to attach talent w/o financing if you do not have direct relationships. Agents r not helpful w/o $. #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow Acting made me love the collaborative nature of the beast. I still have an ambition to act, but didn’t want it to be all I did. #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent i think producing gave me more groundwork for acting. as i now realize its not all about one thing or one person or honestly, ego #filmin140 -9:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @atlfilm365 The more u know about the process, the better u can do ur job, whether it’s acting, shooting, directing or managing. #filmin140 -9:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @ambushent: i think producing gave me more groundwork for acting. as i now realize its not all about one thing or one person or honestly, ego #filmin140 -9:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow In my experience, you can attach talent if you have good material that they are motivated to do, with or without the money. #filmin140 -9:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@adriandukes RT @ambushent: it is hard to attach talent w/o financing if you do not have direct relationships. Agents r not helpful w/o $. #filmin140 -9:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent agree with blindlyefilms for sure #filmin140 -9:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow Or rather: in attaching talent, the script is all. #filmin140 -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @thomaswoodrow: you can attach talent if you have good material that they are motivated to do, with or without the money. #filmin140 -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @blindlylefilms @atlfilm365 Agree that well-rounded producer is a better producer. The more you know… #filmin140 -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@motionpix RT @blindlylefilms: @atlfilm365 The more u know about the process, the better u can do ur job, whether it’s acting, shooting, directing or managing. #filmin140 -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent back to the actor attachement question: Super was able 2 be made because James Gunn’s ex wife Jenna Fisher got the script 2 Rainn #filmin140 -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope #filmin140 sorry for being late -9:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent Rainn then sent it to Ellen. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr #truedat #screenplay RT @thomaswoodrow: Or rather: in attaching talent, the script is all. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow A major value of film school was in doing all the roles: shooting, sound, AD’ing, &c, with the permission to screw up and learn. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms Just don’t try to do it all yourself, get people you trust and turn the job over to them. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms Nothing like having dept. heads that don’t need to be watched #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent its a lot of who you know, or who you know who knows. 🙂 at least when you don’t have the dough. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope #filmin140 talent needs to trust the production if they are to Attach -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope Welcome. #filmin140 -9:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @TedHope: #filmin140 talent needs to trust the production if they are to Attach -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @ambushent: its a lot of who you know, or who you know who knows. 🙂 at least when you dont have the dough. #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions RT @Filmin140Panel: Okay, first question for the panelists, tell us what path led you to producing? schooling, acting, directing? #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent hi TED! 🙂 #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @thomaswoodrow: major value of film school was in doing all the roles: shooting, sound, ADing,w/ permission to screw up/learn. #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer What was the biggest challenge producer Super on a low budget? #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow Like anything, attracting talent is ultimately best done through some version of networking. #filmin140 -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ellenmaguirenyc If you’re interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and other participants. -9:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@motionpix Can you expand on the elements of trust? @TedHope #filmin140 talent needs to trust the production if they are to Attach -9:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @thomaswoodrow: Like anything, attracting talent is ultimately best done through some version of networking. #filmin140 -9:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr Oh, man, yes to this. RT @blindlylefilms: Nothing like having dept. heads that dont need to be watched #filmin140 -9:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent biggest challenge was affording music for this film. We were lucky to partner with Cutting Edge. #filmin140 -9:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@deadcenter RT @ellenmaguirenyc: If you’re interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and other participants. -9:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FMReloaded@gabrielgeer: What was the biggest challenge producer Super on a low budget? #filmin140” -9:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @ambushent: biggest challenge on Super was affording music for this film. We were lucky to partner with Cutting Edge. #filmin140 -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@adriandukes RT @ellenmaguirenyc: If u r intrstd in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweetin now w/ @TedHope, @ambushent & @thomaswoodrow #filmin140 -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @ambushent: when you are an artist the only way to get s**t made is to make it yourself. #filmin140 -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@CourtneyBKMay RT @atlfilm365: It’s twitter. As long as you don’t point out bad spelling some folks will just assume you’re using shorthand. 🙂 #filmin140 -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie #filmin140 What’s a low budget? Could the panelists tell us the budgets of their most recent films? Differnt problems present at dif levels. -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @ambushent When did you bring in Cutting Edge? Many indie productions wait till the very end to talk music. #filmin140 -9:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@boguta RT @ellenmaguirenyc: If you’re interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and other participants. -9:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @ellenmaguirenyc: If you’re interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and other participants. -9:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope biggest challenge was the scale of the vision. That was biggest gift too. It made it all happen. #filmin140 -9:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions Interested in indie filmmaking/producing, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @ambushent: when you are an artist the only way to get s**t made is to make it yourself. i think a lot of people realize this at some point. #filmin140 -9:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @blackmetalmovie good to see you here. #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow My last was $100K. Phew! Elbow grease and favors galore. Not for the faint of heart, but can definitely be done. #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @atlfilm365 @ambushent after we shot it and we saw that we had amazing temp we wanted to keep in. Temp kills u when you love it. #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope lowest budget for me recently was $650K #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel is it always?RT @TedHope: biggest challenge was the scale of the vision. That was biggest gift too. It made it all happen. #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri @TedHope @ambushent What would be the best way to making the transition from #nobudget to #lowbudget? #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @thomaswoodrow impressive! #filmin140 -9:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sowetobosia @thomaswoodrow how long did it take to raise that kind of money? #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent lowest budget on feature 500k- doc- 80k #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I don’t think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. Even w lead vision #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff How are you compensating cast and crew at low budgets? #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne Mine lowest was more like $650. RT @TedHope lowest budget for me recently was $650K #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @ambushent Music makes such an impact, and can help make any film stand out more, we stress that productions talk music early. #filmin140 -9:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @TedHope: I dont think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@opedr @theNFB @CBCDocs @katciz @h3carrie @gflahive If interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 live tweeting now w/ @TedHope, @ambushent et al. -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @gregorybayne LOL #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne My lowest was more like $650. RT @TedHope lowest budget for me recently was $650K #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @TedHope: I dont think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I raised it in pieces over the course of about a year. You’re compensating cast/crew with experience and back-end at that level. #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@davidpbaker RT @norestrictions: Interested in indie filmmaking/producing, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope There needs to b logic to the compenstn for cast & crew. SUPER there was parity & equity #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker RT @TedHope: I dont think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. #filmin140 -9:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@0Solace0 RT @norestrictions: Interested in indie filmmaking/producing, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope Compensation also comes in form of respect. Letting them into process. Treating them as true contributors #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @TedHope @thomaswoodrow Any experience or desire to shoot in another country? #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: There needs to b logic to the compenstn for cast & crew. SUPER there was parity & equity #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @norestrictions: Interested in indie filmmaking/producing, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @ambushent @thomaswoodrow What were funding sources? Pvt equity, tax-incentives, friends, crowdfunding? #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent ur script will decide for u there r many films u can’t make no budget but u can make alot for low budget #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @thomaswoodrow: At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow I think back-end is the new model. It’s how we completed our features and compete for ROI #filmin140 -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie #filmin140 Thanks all under the mil mark, interesting. @TedHope I take it that wasn’t Super then. ; ) -9:19 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ThatsQueen2U RT @filmmakingstuff: How are you compensating cast and crew at low budgets? #filmin140 I crew up with all my AIA former classmates! -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I shot in Macedonia during the summer of 2006, which was a very challenging experience, but also rewarding in many ways. #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri @TedHope @ambushent And what I mean by #nobudget is this: $400 http://latinola.com/story.php?story=8240 #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I love the idea of tiny everything but loans & family require higher budgets for me at the moment. #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@AuteurTheorist RT @gregorybayne: My lowest was more like $650. RT @TedHope lowest budget for me recently was $650K #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM Disagree RT @TedHope: Compensation also comes in form of respect. Letting them into process. Treating them as true contributors #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

RecruitZero RT @thomaswoodrow: At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff How much is the demise of DVD distribution influencing budgets? #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@NikolinaKujaca RT @TedHope: I don’t think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. Even w lead vision #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @thomaswoodrow: At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr YES! RT @thomaswoodrow: At extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of hours & feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I shot in Germany & Japan. Hope to shoot in China. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @elizabethkarr @ambushent – Tax Insve. yes. big one from Louisana. Equity the rest- music from cutting edge #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope where is the budget sweet spot? #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM www.vitamincshow.com | Definitiely have to talk | RT @TedHope: I shot in Germany & Japan. Hope to shoot in China. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @thomaswoodrow: At extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@_cellycel RT @thomaswoodrow: At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I would love to do travelogue film all over the globe w a tiny crew and mix of professional & amateur cast. #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@323310bones I’m really enjoying #filmin140 at http://tweetchat.com/room/filmin140 @TedHope, always on the vanguard -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel Q:@ sxsw panel, producers said they were low men on totem pole after financiers, director, actors, studio. True? #filmin140 -9:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @filmmakingstuff it is dropping budgets to the floor. we are in a huge decline now for what marketplace allows for. #filmin140 -9:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: I would love to do travelogue film all over the globe w a tiny crew and mix of professional & amateur cast. #filmin140 -9:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope did you partner w/ local producers when you shot abroad? How did u handle crewing up? #filmin140 -9:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow MONSTERS was an amazing example of shooting abroad and treating it with great imagination. #filmin140 -9:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @Filmin140Panel producers and financiers are the lowest on the pole. at least it seems that way. #filmin140 -9:23 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent Yeah. That’s the paradox. #filmin140 -9:23 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope sweet spot? depends on projct, but when everyone feels they can do their job, r rewarded fine, & the money is being spent wisely #filmin140 -9:23 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RE: DVD sales RT @ambushent: it is dropping budgets to the floor. we are in a huge decline now for what marketplace allows for. #filmin140 -9:23 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent Similar to what factories experience when sweatshop labor floods the market with cheaply produced goods. #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @thomaswoodrow I totally agree about MONSTERS #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@mynette How the heck does indie producing Twitter panel work? Hard to follow. Gnight, have fun #filmin140 (Hi @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent !) -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jazlyric87 RT @blindlylefilms: @atlfilm365 The more u know about the process, the better u can do ur job, whether it’s acting, shooting, directing or managing. #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions Good question. RT @filmmakingstuff: How much is the demise of DVD distribution influencing budgets? #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo Good tweets via @shericandler @davidpbaker @norestrictions: #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope not just DVD causing value drop #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @ambushent I was really surprised to hear that. Thought the producer was quite high in pecking order of decisions #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@_cellycel Would dslr shooting be the most cost effective way of shooting these days? #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer Does the $ for an ultra low budget come from same as 5M movie? Seems like a tougher sell as less likely to recoup. #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @TedHope Did you work with the governments of Germany & Japan? I’ve heard u can get some money depending on the country & budget #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @Filmin140Panel On a true indie the operating agreement defines profit participation, so I always look for parity with actors &c. #filmin140 -9:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ThatsQueen2U RT @blindlylefilms: @atlfilm365 The more u know about the process, the better u can do ur job, whether it’s acting, shooting, directing or managing. #filmin140 -9:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juntoboxfilms RT @ellenmaguirenyc: If you’re interested in indie filmmaking, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and other participants. -9:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@grking love this RT @TedHope: I’d love to do travelogue film all over the globe w a tiny crew & mix of professional & amateur cast. #filmin140 -9:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions RT @ambushent: @filmmakingstuff it is dropping budgets to the floor. we are in a huge decline now for what marketplace allows for. #filmin140 -9:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @gabrielgeer it is a dif sort of financier but just as hard to raise. micro budget will work when there is united infrastructure #filmin140 -9:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @grking: love this RT @TedHope: I’d love to do travelogue film all over the globe w a tiny crew & mix of professional & amateur cast. #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr@ambushent @Filmin140Panel producers & financiers R lowest on the pole.at least it seems that way” Ironic cuz w/out them-no film #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @Filmin140Panel @ambushent very high in decisions. very low on other things. #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope what else is causing value drop? More competition? Difficulty sourcing audience? #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @_cellycel i don’t know what that is? #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel aside from Thomas, have either of you considered crowdfunding? #filmin140 -9:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @blindlylefilms our local producers got some subsidies and it helped with the financing — but it was long time ago FLIRT #filmin140 -9:27 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @filmmakingstuff I think there is a value drop due to brain drain migration from film to serialized entertainment (HBO). #filmin140 -9:27 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I think about crowdfunding a lot. I hv hard time convincing experienced directors to do it w me. I know I will do it. #filmin140 -9:27 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @TedHope @thomaswoodrow Any advice on how much of your films to “own” if any when you are made an offer for a film? #filmin140 -9:28 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @Filmin140Panel crowd funding could be great if you have a cause that peeps r attracted to in your film. w/o it #filmin140 -9:28 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @TedHope: I think about crowdfunding a lot. I hv hard time convincing experienced directors to do it w me. know I will do it. #filmin140 -9:28 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent w/out a “cause” in your feature or doc- crowdfunding is just getting your friends to give you 100 bucks at a website that takes % #filmin140 -9:28 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow When financing, I generally retain 50% for contingent compensation… #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @thomaswoodrow It’s interesting that Showtime and HBO are now doing the costume dramas that are akin to films in the 1960s. #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope There is a super-abundance of product, a comptn from other leisure activities, a fractured audience, fear of the future #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Crowdfunding is a great way to test a concept and source your initial audience. I don’t think you should rely for full budget. #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: There is a super-abundance of product, a comptn from other leisure activities, a fractured audience, fear of the future #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @thomaswoodrow @filmmakingstuff lol #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

FilmTVDiversity RT @FilmThreat: RT @norestrictions: Interested in indie filmmaking/producing, #filmin140 is live tweeting now – with @TedHope, @ambushent and @thomaswoodrow -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @TedHope: There is a super-abundance of product, a comptn from other leisure activities, a fractured audience, fear of the future #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope also value drop from loss of library value, change in tele acquistion, shift to aggregation subscrptn model from transaction #filmin140 -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie #filmin140 And piracy is a killer. There are countless torrents of our film up. I mean there aren’t, anywhere. No need to look. -9:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @blindlylefilms mostly things are licenced so you always own them if you finance them or part if you produce. #filmin140 -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Do you guys think the unlimited VOD rental model is painful to revenue? #filmin140 -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope Your thoughts on new AMC indy #distribution platform. Viable alternative 4 indy filmmakers? #filmin140 -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope cost of money, control of theatrical distro pipeline, cost of marketing, decline of advertisting platforms #filmin140 the list goes on&on -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 bonjour everyone! #filmin140 -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @ambushent re: crowdsourcing Depends on ur network & how creative your giveaways are. You can always break out and get noticed. #filmin140 -9:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @filmmakingstufff you mean SVOD interms of unlimtd VOD? yes I think that hurts the artist now #filmin140 -9:31 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel agree RT @blindlylefilms: @ambushent re: crowdsourcing Depends on ur network & how creative your giveaways are. #filmin140 -9:31 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @TedHope: I think abt crowdfunding a lot. I hv hard time convincing experienced directors to do it w me. I know I will do it. #filmin140 -9:31 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @blackmetalmovie when our first feature hit the torrents – our sales increased. Anybody else experience this? #filmin140 -9:31 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions 100% agree RT @ambushent: @Filmin140Panel crowd funding could be great if u have a cause that peeps r attracted to in your film. #filmin140 -9:31 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @filmmakingstuff – I think VOD will probably save us from doom. #filmin140 -9:32 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @blackmetalmovie As much as piracy sucks, sometimes it can help get you noticed. Offer something different on DVD. #filmin140 -9:32 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I am very excited by exhibitors entering distro. they know their audience and build their communities #filmin140 @elizabethkarr -9:32 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer @superthemovie producers @ambushent and @TedHope tweeting live about indie producing with @thomaswoodrow at #filmin140 #filmin140 -9:32 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope @filmmakingstuff Yeah. That’s what I meant. Those deals are painful. Very difficult to justify budget with svod #filmin140 -9:32 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @TedHope Totally agree. Music Box is a great example of that! #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Shout out to Adam Chapnick and distribber. #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope other positive aspects of piracy is it opens up markets and develops more platforms, exposes new audience desire #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @filmmakingstuff: Shout out to Adam Chapnick and distribber. #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: other positive aspects of piracy is it opens up markets and develops more platforms, exposes new audience desire #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @blindlylefilms @blackmetalmovie or don’t offer DVD, how’d you think it gets up there in first place? #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie @blindlylefilms We offer 4 hours of extras on our DVD/Blu. I don’t subscribe 2 the idea that piracy raises awareness among buyers #filmin140 -9:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope they might know their audience, but I wonder how they will source an audience large enough to justify budgets. #filmin140 -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @TedHope @elizabethkarr Netflix dealing with Fincher and Kevin Spacey “House of Cards” #filmin140 -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer Do you think new distro models will fill the gap let by theatrical or do budgets need to be reconsidered to even lower points? #filmin140 -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope VOD wont be deliverance from doom until better intefaces & specific marketing to distinct audiences exists #filmin140 -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent we made sure to make a rad behind the scenes for the dvd of Super so we could help with DVD sales as opposed to or along side VOD #filmin140 -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio Interested in #indiefilm making/producing? #filmin140 is live tweeting now w/ @TedHope, @ambushent & @thomaswoodrow (via @norestrictions) -9:34 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @TedHope exhibitors often reflected/responded to their neighborhoods. shift to multiplex changed that. a shift back could b good. #filmin140 -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @Filmin140Panel @blackmetalmovie you can always “rip” an online version without the DVD. #filmin140 -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@adamfwright RT @TedHope: VOD wont be deliverance from doom until better intefaces & specific marketing to distinct audiences exists #filmin140 -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films@thomaswoodrow: At extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140” -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope dif budget levels work for dif platforms & content Sundance’s record acqstn #s demonstrate that well #filmin140 -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @gabrielgeer the lower you can keep your budget, the safer you are right now at getting it made or seen. #filmin140 -9:35 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent great idea to have the added product/value. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thruaglassdrkly RT @FilmThreat: RT @ambushent: when you are an artist the only way to get s**t made is to make it yourself. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @blindlylefilms @blackmetalmovie basically, you can’t stop it. so you need to sell more than just copies. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @ambushent: @gabrielgeer the lower you can keep your budget, the safer you are right now at getting it made or seen. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I am interested in the idea of more flexible, local-oriented theatrical programming stemming from dynamic audience feedback. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@agmarshall RT @filmmakingstuff: Crowdfunding is a great way to test a concept and source your initial audience. I don’t think you should rely for full budget. #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent @gabrielgeer would you suggest non-union? #filmin140 -9:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @thomsswoodrow I love that idea #filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope Agree that Exhibitors entering distribution model is promising Cld b boon 4 films that otherwise dont get theatrical. #filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MatthewKlekner RT @TedHope: I am very excited by exhibitors entering distro. they know their audience and build their communities #filmin140 @elizabethkarr -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Screenpens #indiefilm #film RT @ambushent: http://tweetchat.com/room/filmin140 #filmin140 http://bit.ly/hccgzE -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ellenmaguirenyc @atlfilm365 That’s a great point. Exhibitors know their neighborhoods. ##filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@cartermason RT @marissamutascio: Interested in #indiefilm making/producing? #filmin140 is live tweeting now w/ @TedHope, @ambushent & @thomaswoodrow (via @norestrictions) -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I don’t agree that the lower the budget the safer you r to getting your work seen. you need to hv elements ppl want 2 C #filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker I’ve done local non-theatrical/gallery screenings before, looking to start it up again in Brooklyn. Focus on community/event #filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @filmmakingstuff @ambushent @gabrielgeer depends on script $state but unions can be helpful doing lower rates- all have low budg #filmin140 -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot Join #filmin140 right now for outstanding discussion -9:37 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow what do you mean by “local oriented theatrical programming?” #filmin140 -9:38 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @ellenmaguirenyc with digital technology, exhibitors could instantly program to respond to what their audiences want #filmin140 -9:38 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @TedHope are you seeing issues regarding digital print fees from exhibitors? #filmin140 -9:38 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie @blindlylefilms I believe in making films as widely available as possible in many formats & offering alternatives to piracy. #filmin140 -9:38 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juntoboxfilms RT @elizabethkarr: @TedHope Agree that Exhibitors entering distribution model is promising Cld b boon 4 films that otherwise dont get theatrical. #filmin140 -9:38 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @filmmakingstuff A local arthouse having meaningful data from their audience re: preferences and programming more openly. #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent then we are talking business start-up 101. We finally have non-discriminatory distribution. So sounds good! #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope imagine if you altered the film so there was a local version of the movie depending on where you screened it #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms @TedHope agreed- don’t go so cheap that you leave out quality. That said- one star doesnt nec help, sometimes hurts #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@zaffi Indeed! RT @laurabot: Join #filmin140 right now for outstanding discussion -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @thomaswoodrow: Interested in idea of flexible, local-oriented theatrical programming stemming from dynamic audience feedback. #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope @thomsswoodrow Filmmakers dealing directly w/ local theatres is truly viable option for getting movies seen. #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @TedHope: I don’t agree that the lower the budget the safer you r to getting your work seen. you need to hv elements ppl want 2 C #filmin140 -9:39 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@agmarshall RT @TedHope: I don’t agree that the lower the budget the safer you r to getting your work seen. you need to hv elements ppl want 2 C #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow Gotcha! Makes sense. #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jeannevb psst #@scriptchat RT @zaffi: Indeed! RT @laurabot: Join #filmin140 right now for outstanding discussion -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes @TedHope and compelling characters. when’s the last time you seen a memorable character in an indie film? #filmin140 #indiefilm #film -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @TedHope: imagine if you altered the film so there was a local version of the movie depending on where you screened it #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juntoboxfilms Very interesting discussions taking place re: #indie film production! RT @laurabot: Join #filmin140 right now for outstanding discussion -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM @TedHope Like what @alltop does when he makes presentations in different cites — 1st several slides are locally-sourced snaps #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker I think offering more intimate screenings & developing a rapport with the audience is important so u can learn from the feedback #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @atlfilm365 with digital technology, exhibitors could instantly program to respond to what their audiences want #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Seems like more and more money needs to be devoted to sourcing an audience from day one! #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@theactorgenie RT @TedHope: I don’t agree that the lower the budget the safer you r to getting your work seen. you need to hv elements ppl want 2 C #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker RT @TedHope: imagine if you altered the film so there was a local version of the movie depending on where you screened it #filmin140 -9:40 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @filmmakingstuff: Seems like more and more money needs to be devoted to sourcing an audience from day one! #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope some exhibitors r hesitant 2 engage w filmmakers unless they show in advance they can produce audience #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @gregorybayne @TedHope agree that u need elements ppl want 2 c. but also know that u gotta do it cheaper now in this marketplace. #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @FilmThreat: RT @atlfilm365 with digital technology, exhibitors could instantly program to respond to what audiences want #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @filmmakingstuff: Seems like more and more money needs to be devoted to sourcing an audience from day one! #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@JOFP26 RT @filmmakingstuff: Seems like more and more money needs to be devoted to sourcing an audience from day one! #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@cartermason RT @ambushent: it is hard to attach talent w/o financing if you do not have direct relationships. Agents r not helpful w/o $. #filmin140 -9:41 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @TedHope: some exhibitors r hesitant 2 engage w filmmakers unless they show in advance they can produce audience #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope not nec 2 spend more $ sourcing audience just spend more effort & labor. Don’t start from scratch each time. #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@zaffi Don’t sleep on that either! If you are into live-tweet hash tag film convos it’s def a must! RT @jeannevb: psst #@scriptchat #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @FilmThreat @TedHope Such a dickien concept. Film morphing into alternate realities depending what venue. #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM @filmmakingstuff Raison d’etre for us PMDs @milesmaker @growyourbase @Dypiangco #PMD #producerofmarketinganddistribution #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot RT @sokap1: @TedHope are you seeing issues regarding digital print fees from exhibitors? #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @filmmakingstuff @FilmThreat @atlfilm365 if they can afford to based on prior agreements with retrofitting their houses #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope audience build should not be project specific but artist & issue focused. Carry & join. True participation #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr #truedat RT @TedHope: not nec 2 spend more $ sourcing audience just spend more effort & labor. Dont start from scratch each time. #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo @ambushent I agree making a DVD package with some love ie. special features art ect makes for experience that is very marketable #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel thoughts on the Red State model? building in an aud around a company, director, producer, actor etc? #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: not nec 2 spend more $ sourcing audience just spend more effort & labor. Don’t start from scratch each time. #filmin140 -9:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @cartermason @ambushent if you don’t have the relationships, the next best thing is a genre specific movie and a good hook. #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow We actually did “virtual introductions” to TRUE ADOLESCENTS at festivals where we couldn’t be in attendance. Went over great. #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @laurabot @sokap1 @TedHope what we r finding is that you have to deliver more elements now, not less. #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @thomaswoodrow @TedHope Do you maintain and build an e-mail list for your audience? #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@scriptchat RT @zaffi: Don’t sleep on that either! If you are into live-tweet hash tag film convos it’s def a must! RT @jeannevb: psst #@scriptchat #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms @TedHope almost no exhibs want to deal w fmmkrs. Many exhibs filled with old skoolers who want to talk to 1 of the 40 bookers #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. Ultimate venue is the human body and mind #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM @Jon_Reiss RT @TedHope: audience build shouldn’t b project specific but artist & issue focused Carry & join. True participation #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@zaffi RT @TedHope: I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. Ultimate venue is the human body and mind #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @THEREALADM @filmmakingstuff @milesmaker @growyourbase @Dypiangco Yeah. I guess I sort of knew where that was going. Ha! #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Sioflynn funny RT @TedHope: I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. Ultimate venue is the human body and mind #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @blindlylefilms Absolutely. Ten thousand strong, baby. #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms But smaller theaters and indies are almost always down. #filmin140 -9:43 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @sokap1 From a festival perspective, that’s not the issue. There still doesn’t exist uniform formats. Even if houses are retro– #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope this is what I like. Movies in pill form. #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jeannevb @zaffi I’m on a biz call right now. But I’m going to pull a transcript of the hashtag later 🙂 Thx for the head’s up! #@scriptchat #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@agmarshall RT @TedHope: audience build should not be project specific but artist & issue focused. Carry & join. True participation #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope Social media can allow local theatres to contact prdcrs directly to screen at their town. Happening 2 m w/ @RFAmovie #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions @TedHope one example being an online presence Facebook/Twitter, etc? #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope always working on building email lists but the timing of it is crucial too. Dif lists for dif things, but it is hard 2do alone #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @TedHope you didn’t use that line with the investors did you Ted? LOL! cheers #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio @TedHope Doesn’t that require filmmakers to do much more upfront transmedia planning? #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @sokap1 –it’s still a jumble of formats an indie filmmaker has to navigate at this point. #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @thomaswoodrow Do you partner with other producers? Joint ventures are the way to go. #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne @ambushent @TedHope I’m a fan of cheaper. My last film is nearly in the black before wide release ’cause of cheaper. #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes @Filmin140Panel well Kevin Smith is a brand on his own. He already had a loyal audience. What about 1st time filmmakers? #filmin140 -9:44 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @TedHope now you are talking internet marketing 101. Building lists and selling VOD is no different than selling an ebook. #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ellenmaguirenyc @TedHope Love the idea of building one’s audience by focusing on the artist and the issue – not the individual project. #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @blindlylefilms I am actually doing it for the first time on my next project and am excited for the collaboration! #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope forget about uniform platforms, how about a uniform tracking code for films like ISDN#s so we are able to track films x time& loc #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jonNothin RT @TedHope: I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. Ultimate venue is the human body and mind #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @TedHope: forget about uniform platforms, how about a uniform tracking code for films like ISDN#s so we are able to track films x time& loc #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani #filmin140 Cheaper is good as long as the quality doesn’t suffer. If you can keep expenses low, that’s just smart business -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@legendsoflala RT @TedHope: some exhibitors r hesitant 2 engage w filmmakers unless they show in advance they can produce audience #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @MrSifuentes it takes time, first timers can’t do this. You have to work up, and keep working up. #filmin140 -9:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr Just don’t overdose RT @TedHope:Trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form.Ultimate venue is the human body & mind #filmin140 -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio @elizabethkarr @FilmThreat @TedHope Like integrating QS codes to unlock local content? #filmin140 it’s being done now w/ Jurassic Park Slope -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@legendsoflala RT @TedHope: imagine if you altered the film so there was a local version of the movie depending on where you screened it #filmin140 -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @marissamutascio @TedHope it helped that Rainn had a large twitter following. #filmin140 -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope 1st time filmmakers can still build audience. just need to scale proj to that smaller aud and recog that it is process #filmin140 -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@zaffi I am trying to direct films that are like hot sauce. Something spicy that leaves a taste in your mouth that’s hard to forget. #filmin140 -9:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @TedHope: forget about uniform platforms, how about a uniform tracking code for films like ISDN#s so we are able to track films x time& loc #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @ambushent Yeah. If you already have an audience, it’s a great start! #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @MrSifuentes @Filmin140Panel at the end of the day I think the most important thing is HOW GOOD IS YOUR MOVIE. #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope although Rainn had little intl value, Hanway recog value of his social media potency #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @TedHope: 1st time filmmakers can still build audience. need to scale proj to that smaller aud and recog that it is process #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jehorowitz All of a sudden there are a ton of tweets from @TedHope about indie producing. Twitter panel! #filmin140 -9:47 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff 1st time filmmakers should use crowdfunding to source an audience. They should also have their own list. Not just FB or Twitter #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @TedHope is that something to consider now with cast? large social media presence? #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @ambushent @marissamutascio @TedHope That’s how first became aware of yr film by Rainn’s tweets. As producer, gotta love that. #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I wish it was about how good the movie is. It is for me & it makes bad exp better & keeps me going but not same as $ success #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot Re: alter film for local @damiancalvo that visual idea for @indiebluefilm credits? Could recruit local filmmakers/photogs 2 help #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @filmmakingstuff You start your crowdfunding list where you live, in my experience: friends, family, personal fans and built out. #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @filmmakingstuff and don’t overlook traditional methods of sourcing an audience by getting out into the world, meeting ppl #filmin140 -9:48 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio @Filmin140Panel awesome question! #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @filmmakingstuff: 1st time filmmakers should use crowdfunding to source an audience. should have own list. #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope Not just w cast but also crew, financier, distro, sponsors. Real plus if they have a social media presence & good at job #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani RT @thomaswoodrow: @filmmakingstuff You start your crowdfunding list where you live, in my experience: friends, family, personal fans and built out. #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @Filmin140Panel @TedHope YES! but it isnt’ mandatory. it sure helps. #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @vanessaleinani sometimes I forget to go outside. Ha! Very good point. I think crowdfunding first, then festivals. #filmin140 -9:49 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 crowdfunding can be leveraged to mitigate risk from traditional sources. #filmin140 -9:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @TedHope distros have told me since they aren’t consumer facing, don’t need social media presence. #filmin140 -9:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer @filmmakingstuff @ambushent @gabrielgeer I’m told by @agmarshall there is a new IA category for ultra low budget #filmin140 -9:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @sokap1 again – a great way to test a concept. #filmin140 -9:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @filmmakingstuff Haha! 🙂 I was thinking of any things like dressing in character at the local monthly arts walk in my area #filmin140 -9:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @gabrielgeer Wow — that’s pretty interesting. #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope crowdfunding also gives audience a deeper relationship to the film. more apt to become your vocal supportor #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer But you can’t crowdfund a 5M movie. #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jehorowitz Hm… @TedHope it’s hard to say it’s not not about “how good the movie is” — “good” is different things to different people. #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @filmmakingstuff …hand out flyers with the web address, engage, discuss. Like NY promo guerrilla marketing 🙂 #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 crowd can now take place of 10-20% equity and reduce marketing costs on P&A side #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne Crowdfunding is what built the foundation of @drivenfilm’s audience. #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @TedHope: crowdfunding also gives audience a deeper relationship to the film. more apt to become your vocal supportor #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope If a distrbbr says they arent consumer facing, I would be very worried about them #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow For me, crowdfunding was at least as much about ownership of the film and audience-building as it was about raising money. #filmin140 -9:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 Crowdfunding is important, but we and I mean we globally have to get outside the filmmaker to filmmaker bubble. #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie @gabrielgeer What’s the budget cap? #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @TedHope: crowdfunding also gives audience a deeper relationship to the film. more apt to become your vocal supportor #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @gabrielgeer very true. But if you can build buzz on the small scale, you can leverage for more money. Problem becomes ROI. #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms Question: How much attention are you paying to creating apps for your films? #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker Have you read about Interactor? Crowdfunding platform where audience can earn creative control/executive producer credit #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow great point about crowdfunding. #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @TedHope You know what we should try next is crowdfunding 4 PandA maybe if peeps knew $ would go 2 getting project seen would be+ #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @atlfilm365: Crowdfunding is important, but we and I mean we globally have to get outside the filmmaker to filmmaker bubble. #filmin140 -9:52 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@THEREALADM RT @gregorybayne: Crowdfunding is what built the foundation of @drivenfilm’s audience. #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope When I say not bout “good”, I mean it does not lead to box office success — nor sometimes critical success. U can b 2 far ahead #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @thomaswoodrow you can’t put a price tag on how valuable that is – to have vocal supportive invested people in your films success #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @atlfilm365 100% agree. We have got to reach outside of fellow filmmakers to source our crowds. But this can be a tech challenge. #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@lucitemple RT @thomaswoodrow: For me, crowdfunding was at least as much about ownership of the film and audience-building as it was about raising money. #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @THEREALADM: RT @gregorybayne: Crowdfunding is what built the foundation of @drivenfilms audience. #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @sokap1 @atlfilm365 yeah. Agree. Ideas on how to do that? #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jehorowitz @TedHope That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. #filmin140 -9:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope filmmaker 2 filmmaker may be bubble, but support always starts at home. it is our community. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms RT @TedHope: If a distrbbr says they arent consumer facing, I would be very worried about them #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne @atlfilm365 Indeed, indie filmmakers are a horribly fickle audience. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @thomaswoodrow I don’t see it so much as tech challenge as it’s about getting outside of our comfort zones. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Have any of you had success leveraging YouTube to build buzz and source an audience? #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @blindlylefilms we have an Ap for Super but that is because it worked for the content. you can ap every film otherwise its an ad. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo I like @vanessaleinani face to face approach.filmmakers can get buried in networking online. “Like NY promo guerrilla marketing” #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @sokap1 @THEREALADM @gregorybayne @drivenfilms yes but its hard in 140 characters. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@agmarshall RT @thomaswoodrow: For me, crowdfunding was at least as much about ownership of the film and audience-building as it was about raising money. #filmin140 -9:54 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope Used to do communtiy orgnzg which is crowd funding but truly about building participatn. She who gives $1 leads later on. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @sokap1: RT @atlfilm365: Crowdfunding is important, but we and I mean we globally have to get outside the filmmaker to filmmaker bubble. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Shanipedia @TedHope Please spill on some Hal Hartley & #filmin140. How come he seemed to never really break out when he should’ve? Market? Ideology? -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@quasianniez RT @zaffi: I am trying to direct films that are like hot sauce. Something spicy that leaves a taste in your mouth that’s hard to forget. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @filmmakingstuff Absolutely! A hook-y YouTube video can go viral really really fast. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @ambushent would love to hear more how you develeped your ap for Super. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @atlfilm365: Crowdfunding is important, but we and I mean we globally have to get outside the filmmaker to filmmaker bubble. #filmin140 -9:55 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @dylanschenker: Have you read about Interactor? Crowdfunding platform where audience can earn creative control/executive producer credit #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @TedHope: filmmaker 2 filmmaker may be bubble, but support always starts at home. it is our community. #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani how does 1 do that? RT @blindlylefilms: Question: How much attention are you paying to creating apps for your films? #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope Hal has remained true to his art & audience often wants the new over the perfected. He keeps getting better & better. #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @elizabethkarr @ambushent you can put your face in the super poster mask. pretty cute with the marketing as a tool and fun thing. #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @TedHope: I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. Ultimate venue is the human body and mind #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @blindlylefilms: Question: How much attention are you paying to creating apps for your films? #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow Yeah. Our first feature trailer went viral. I was too inexperienced to know how to capture leads! It was 2005. #filmin140 -9:56 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@theauteursG #filmin140 thats the thing, how long can you just go on surviving. networking or maintaining some form of momentum is hard work | -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@unicornsmovie Hello #filmin140 – currently tapping the filmmaker to filmmaker bubble here on twitter. We have over 6,000 likes on facebook. Check us out! -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @dylanschenker what’s the url for interactor? I’m not familiar with that platform. #filmin140 -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms Question: @ambushent @thomaswoodrow @TedHope What “new” thing are you paying attention to most in film? #filmin140 -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer For me watching movies in a theater is by far the biggest film community based experience. Have we given up on reviving it? #filmin140 -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani so true-takes more time than ppl realize RT @theauteursG: #filmin140 networking or maintaining some form of momentum is hard work | -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow but I think the social networking component of YouTube is a great tool. #filmin140 -9:57 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker @sokap1 www.filminteractor.com #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @sokap1: crowd can now take place of 10-20% equity and reduce marketing costs on P&A side #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @theauteursG it is. no way around that. but everything worth doing is hard. #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dylanschenker @gabrielgeer I think it shouldn’t be given up, but more communalized. Made smaller. Make it more hyperlocal. Like a basement show #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I am super encouraged by the fact that sub-$1M movies are being taken seriously (see MARTHA MARCY MAY MARLENE). #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @ambushent: @theauteursG it is. no way around that. but everything worth doing is hard. #filmin140 -9:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films You will RT @gabrielgeer: But you can’t crowdfund a 5M movie. #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @blindlylefilms @ambushent @thomaswoodrow @TedHope honestly- social media outlets and advertising. #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms @gabrielgeer no #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@RamziAbed RT @theauteursG: #filmin140 thats the thing, how long can you just go on surviving. networking or maintaining some form of momentum is hard work | -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions Highly recommend this. RT @10_films: RT @blindlylefilms: Question: How much attention are u paying 2 creating apps 4 your films? #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope “new” thing is commitment to truly ambitious work. Filmmakers R not settling.aim higher. 2 much competitn from past #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow I am always thinking “high value, low cost” —how can something conceptually large and highly entertaining be created for a little #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes @Filmin140Panel multiple sources of funding is critical. don’t forget fiscal sponsorships to apply for grants. #filmin140 #indiefilm #film -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @thomaswoodrow: I am always thinking “high value, low cost” —how can something conceptually large and highly entertaining be created for a little #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani Yeah-ask @garyvee He works like a dog for his $ RT @filmmakingstuff: RT @ambushent: @theauteursG everything worth doing is hard. #filmin140 -9:59 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @10_films @gabrielgeer who says you can’t do that? Iron Sky has proven that statement false. #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @thomaswoodrow: @filmmakingstuff You start your crowdfunding list where you live, in my experience: friends, family, personal fans and built out. #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @thomaswoodrow: I am always thinking “high value, low cost” —how can something conceptually large and highly entertaining be created for a little #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie @dylanschenker Giving creative control to audience is most horrifying thing I’ve heard since news of Janet Jackson producing. #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff One objective of business is to create and keep a customer. Why should modern moviemaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope I think the right director, star, and give back concept could easily fund a $5M project #filmin140 Quentin does charity? -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel RT @thomaswoodrow: always thinking “high value, low cost” —something conceptually large & highly entertaining created 4 little #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @blackmetalmovie LOL #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo now that the ticket RT @thomaswoodrow: I am always thinking “high value, low cost” #filmin140 -10:00 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 Amen! RT @filmmakingstuff: One objective of business is to create and keep a customer. Why should…moviemaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jehorowitz And what a terrific film that is. @thomaswoodrow: sub-$1M movies are being taken seriously (see MARTHA MARCY MAY MARLENE). #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@DevilsMuseMovie #filmin140 THE DEVIL’S MUSE was made by way of revolution. #nojoke #trueindependence #bauhaus #blackdahliamurder -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani W/the lower cost of technology, it is within closer reach RT @thomaswoodrow: I am always thinking “high value, low cost”#filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope @filmmakingstuff one objective in life is to find, love, & stay w good people. Why should filmmaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes RT @filmmakingstuff: One objective of business is to create and keep a customer. Why should modern moviemaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gabrielgeer @10_films @gabrielgeer thats a million 5 dollar donations b #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent RT @blackmetalmovie:Giving creative control to audience is most horrifying thing Ive heard since news of Janet Jackson producing. #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@variancefilms RT @blackmetalmovie: @dylanschenker Giving creative control to audience is most horrifying thing I’ve heard since news of Janet Jackson producing. #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel ok all, the hour is up. The discussion can continue as all are willing #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@NancyRHaris Hm.. #filmin140 thats the thing, how long can you just go on surviving. networking or maintaining some form of momentum is hard work | :@ -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Shanipedia @TedHope HH was 1st filmmaker I recall shooting a “commercial” feature in digital format. Truly inspiring storyteller. #filmin140 -10:01 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @TedHope From your mouth to filmmaker ears. Crowdfunding a 5 M film is definitely going to happen. PR alone would be priceless. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juntoboxfilms RT @TedHope: I think the right director, star, and give back concept could easily fund a $5M project #filmin140 Quentin does charity? -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel thanks to tonights panelists @TedHope @ambushent @thomaswoodrow for taking part #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot @indiebluefilm @unicornsmovie @OuttaTheBlu = ambitious film RT @TedHope: “new” thing is commitment to truly ambitious work. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @thomaswoodrow with technology, it’s not tough to have great production value. Even backyard BBQ’s look cinematic these days. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @ambushent: RT @blackmetalmovie:Giving creative control to audience is most horrifying thing Ive heard since news of Janet Jackson producing. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @TedHope I think with right financial incentives to micro funders a 5M film could be easily done now with good cast/direc #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@TedHope Thank you all for joining in. I really dug it and look forward to doing it again sometime. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @filmmakingstuff Whose BBQs are you watching? 🙂 #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat For folks who missed out on panel tonight, or for those who want to revisit, transcript will be on @FilmThreat.com tomorrow. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow @TedHope Exactly — it’s literally just smart investing. #filmin140 -10:02 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent Thanks for your time! #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thenewerotic #filmin140 THE NEW EROTIC: ART SEX REVOLUTION has visited us from the future. #trulyamerican #erotica #newwave #filmmaker #uprising -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr 🙂 RT @TedHope: @filmmakingstuff one objective in life is 2 find, love,& stay w good people.Y should filmmaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thomaswoodrow Take care everyone! #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @TedHope we’re here every two weeks! join in anytime. #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani exactly-same game, different name #filmin140 RT @filmmakingstuff: One objective of business is to create an… (cont) http://deck.ly/~IbsDd -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff @atlfilm365 Kidding sort of, but true. Backyard indies are flooding the market. #filmin140 -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio @TedHope #filmin140 who or what has set crowdfunding limits to date? And would the current leading crowdfunding sites be used to break mold? -10:03 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat Thanks @TedHope @thomaswoodrow and @ambushent for being with us tonight #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @FilmThreat @TedHope agreed. let me know when you find this project. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @FilmThreat: Thanks @TedHope @thomaswoodrow and @ambushent for being with us tonight #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@theauteursG #filmin140 open 24 hours 7 days a week 365 days a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<> -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 Thanks! @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@norestrictions It all goes by so fast. 😉 RT @Filmin140Panel: thanks to tonights panelists @TedHope @ambushent @thomaswoodrow for taking part #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blackmetalmovie Here’s how to crowdfund 5 mil film: open casting call for 1 mil extras – with phones. Bye all. #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani RT @filmmakingstuff: RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:04 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @FilmThreat @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent Thanks to you and all in the room for informative chat. #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Goodnight everbody. Thank you @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 we’re looking for films that want to crowdfund in the 250K-1M range in a hybrid approach. get in touch if you want a demo. #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ambushent @jponcepalmieri @FilmThreat @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent It was a blast! Great e meeting u. #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@stephspiro RT @TedHope: crowdfunding also gives audience a deeper relationship to the film. more apt to become your vocal supportor #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr When I saw the credit scroll of producers for Kids Are Alright, thought maybe it was crowdfunded. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff Free filmmaking book? Plug: http://bit.ly/b6ZTI0 #filmin140 -10:05 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel LOL RT @elizabethkarr: When I saw the credit scroll of producers for Kids Are Alright, thought maybe it was crowdfunded. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:06 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 RT @elizabethkarr: When I saw the credit scroll of producers for Kids Are Alright, thought maybe it was crowdfunded. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:06 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@ellenmaguirenyc Thanks to @FilmThreat @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent @atlfilm365 & others for the interesting panel discussion. #filmin140 -10:06 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@555films RT @elizabethkarr: When I saw the credit scroll of producers for Kids Are Alright, thought maybe it was crowdfunded. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:06 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juntoboxfilms RT @TedHope: crowdfunding also gives audience a deeper relationship to the film. more apt to become your vocal supportor #filmin140 -10:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat RT @elizabethkarr: When I saw the credit scroll of producers for Kids Are Alright, thought maybe it was crowdfunded. 🙂 #filmin140 -10:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo @norestrictions really did go by in a flurry. It was like a panel but more concentrated thx @TedHope @ambushent @thomaswoodrow #filmin140 -10:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jponcepalmieri RT @ambushent: @jponcepalmieri @FilmThreat @TedHope @thomaswoodrow @ambushent It was a blast! Great e meeting u. #filmin140 -10:07 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@FilmThreat Seeing a lots of thanks to me, but @shericandler was the mastermind of tonight’s panel, so show her some love, friends #filmin140 -10:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011
@indiegirlorg RT @TedHope: 1st time filmmakers can still build audience. just need to scale proj to that smaller aud and recog that it is process #filmin140 -10:50 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@indiegirlorg RT @TedHope: audience build should not be project specific but artist & issue focused. Carry & join. True participation #filmin140 -10:51 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@jillcarter Yes! RT @TedHope: I think the right director, star and give back concept could easily fund a $5M project #filmin140 Quentin does charity? -10:53 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@kendrickhudson RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:58 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Reisytal RT @thomaswoodrow: At the extreme low-budget level, there is no substitute for being respectful of the hours and feeding people well. #filmin140 -11:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@CathrynLouis RT @elizabethkarr: RT @Filmin140Panel: interesting news, Warner closes its international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -11:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@dnbrasco RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -11:42 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 @filmmakingstuff Going back to the filmmaker bubble, I think it could make for an interesting #filmin140 -10:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 RT @FilmThreat: Seeing a lots of thanks to me, but @shericandler was the mastermind of tonight’s panel, so show her some love, friends #filmin140 -10:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes raising money via @indieGoGo for my feature film Driving Without Brakes Plug: http://igg.me/p/22275?a=4324&;i=shlk #filmin140 -10:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MeghanScibona RT @thomaswoodrow: I am always thinking “high value, low cost” —how can something conceptually large and highly entertaining be created for a little #filmin140 -10:08 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@555films RT @elizabethkarr: 🙂 RT @TedHope: @filmmakingstuff one objective in life is 2 find, love,& stay w good people.Y should filmmaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel interesting news, Warner closes it’s international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -10:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@blindlylefilms RT @atlfilm365 @FilmThreat @shericandler was the mastermind of tonight’s panel, so show her some love, friends #filmin140 -10:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr Let’s support each other. Send me your link & I’ll join. My film: http://www.radiofreealbemuth.com On FB 2. Adapt of PKD novel. #filmin140 -10:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 Thanks @shericandler! #filmin140 -10:09 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@filmmakingstuff RT @atlfilm365: RT @FilmThreat: Seeing a lots of thanks to me, but @shericandler was the mastermind of tonights panel #filmin140 -10:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel and running this handle tonight, maybe you guessed 🙂 #filmin140 -10:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@damiancalvo @FilmThreat indeed thank you @shericandler for the heads up #filmin140 -10:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes Had my 1st twitter panel live via @Filmin140Panel very cool. best to all my fellow filmmakers #filmin140 #indiefilm #film #winning -10:10 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 Hey folks, don’t forget you can always suggest topics for future #filmin140‘s. -10:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr @Filmin140Panel @filmmakingstuff @atlfilm365 @FilmThreat @shericandler You guys – great panel! #filmin140 -10:11 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @Filmin140Panel: interesting news, Warner closes it’s international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -10:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thestrangeones RT @TedHope: I don’t think there ever is a “make it yourself”. No such thing as true DIY. It is always a collaboration. Even w lead vision #filmin140 -10:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel for sure hit the FB page with them RT @atlfilm365: Hey folks, dont forget you can always suggest topics for future #filmin140s. #filmin140 -10:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@sokap1 @atlfilm365 where do we make those suggestions? #filmin140 -10:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@gregorybayne RT @FilmThreat: Seeing a lots of thanks to me, but @shericandler was the mastermind of tonight’s panel, so show her some love, friends #filmin140 -10:12 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@555films RT @TedHope: When I say not bout “good”, I mean it does not lead to box office success — nor sometimes critical success. U can b 2 far ahead #filmin140 -10:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @sokap1 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Film-in-140/148096695237076?ref=ts #filmin140 -10:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@elizabethkarr RT @Filmin140Panel: interesting news, Warner closes its international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -10:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@michaeladempsey RT @ambushent: I started as an actress. I produced theater first. I don’t think I ever meant to be a producer, but looks like now I am- It’s fun #filmin140 -10:13 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@atlfilm365 Film in 140 Facebook Page http://on.fb.me/ensNwy is where you can post suggestions for future #filmin140 topics -10:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@juicyplanet RT @FilmThreat: RT @TedHope: The financing formula for success is to have the value exceed the negative cost #filmin140 -10:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@EPJunkie RT @ambushent: we made sure to make a rad behind the scenes for the dvd of Super so we could help with DVD sales as opposed to or along side VOD #filmin140 -10:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @filmmakingstuff: @thomaswoodrow with technology, it’s not tough to have great production value. Even backyard BBQ’s look cinematic these days. #filmin140 -10:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@555films RT @elizabethkarr: RT @Filmin140Panel: interesting news, Warner closes its international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -10:14 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes @vanessaleinani imagine if you could raise 2/3 of your budget with a fiscal sponsor, grants, fundraising and crowd funding? #filmin140 -10:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@marissamutascio RT @elizabethkarr: @Filmin140Panel @filmmakingstuff @atlfilm365 @FilmThreat @shericandler You guys – great panel! #filmin140 -10:15 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @MrSifuentes @vanessaleinani and not have debt if you raised it all that way. I know ppl who have #filmin140 -10:16 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@RobertMoranLA RT @elizabethkarr RT @Filmin140Panel interesting news Warner closes its international film acquisitions unit http://bit.ly/hEYjB9 #filmin140 -10:17 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@cinealoido RT @theauteursG #filmin140 open 24 hours 7 days a week 365 days a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -10:18 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel crowdfunding all stars, way more than $5K raised http://kck.st/hAkYp3 #filmin140 -10:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @damiancalvo Filmmakers tend to create the aspects of the story.To raise the funds, switch gears to marketing & entertaining #filmin140 -10:20 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @damiancalvo If you look at all the major product brands and think of the type of marketing they do, that’s where your answer is #filmin140 -10:21 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films Cc @instinctivefilm RT @dylanschenker: @sokap1 www.filminteractor.com #filmin140 -10:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@MrSifuentes @Filmin140Panel we did a bbq sale to raise money 4 my friend’s zombie film. Raised $2k shot the trailer. he got a $75k investment #filmin140 -10:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@smpiaDMI RT @sokap1: we’re looking for films that want to crowdfund in the 250K-1M range in a hybrid approach. get in touch if you want a demo. #filmin140 -10:22 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani I’ve raised entire budgets for some theater #filmin140 RT @MrSifuentes: @vanessaleinani imagine if you could raise 2/3 of your budget -10:23 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @sokap1: we’re looking for films that want to crowdfund in the 250K-1M range in a hybrid approach. get in touch if you want a demo. #filmin140 -10:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani @MrSifuentes #filmin140 I also watched a guy get all the funding he ever needed for a full year EVERY year for his program.Def. possible 🙂 -10:24 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @Filmin140Panel: crowdfunding all stars, way more than $5K raised http://kck.st/hAkYp3 #filmin140 -10:25 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot Thanks! RT @ambushent: @laurabot @sokap1 @TedHope what we r finding is that you have to deliver more elements now, not less. #filmin140 -10:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani Seen it happen, experienced it myself (non film ventures). Debt free financing rocks! #filmin140 RT @Filmin14… (cont) http://deck.ly/~bvTD7 -10:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@mynette @FilmThreat @shericandler @Filmin140Panel Humble suggestion: discourage RTs during #filmin140 panels. Cuts the clutter & ppl can RT after. -10:26 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@10_films RT @Filmin140Panel: for sure hit the FB page with them RT @atlfilm365: Hey folks, dont forget you can always suggest topics for future #filmin140s. #filmin140 -10:28 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@RB_Phan RT @TedHope: @filmmakingstuff one objective in life is to find, love, & stay w good people. Why should filmmaking be any different? #filmin140 -10:29 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@laurabot They make cameras in pill form. I swallowed one once RT @TedHope: I am trying to produce film that can be digested in pill form. #filmin140 -10:30 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@vanessaleinani Allright. Great #filmin140 panel-thanks for some great convo! 🙂 Got to get back to this contract #makesenseofeverywordbeforesigning -10:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@RB_Phan RT @TedHope: forget about uniform platforms, how about a uniform tracking code for films like ISDN#s so we are able to track films x time& loc #filmin140 -10:33 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@nelsoncarvajal FREE CINEMA NOW: The Notion Of Independent Group Distribution–Can It Work? (@Fandependent) — http://bit.ly/hhYM9X #filmin140q #filmin140 -10:36 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@thebigwilley #filmin140 why isn’t someone packaging shorts for public digestion? At least Oscar Noms should be out in wide release making $ for the mkrs -10:45 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@Filmin140Panel @thebigwilley ask Magnolia & Shorts International. They handle Oscar shorts. I’d like to see them play preroll on features #filmin140 -10:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

@bridgeworkpics RT @nelsoncarvajal: FREE CINEMA NOW: The Notion Of Independent Group Distribution–Can It Work? (@Fandependent) — http://bit.ly/hhYM9X #filmin140q #filmin140 -10:46 PM Mar 16th, 2011

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