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By Ondi Timoner | August 22, 2013

Cutie and The Boxer, the beautiful documentary about Brooklyn artists Ushio and Noriko Shinohara that have lived together in tumult, expression and flowering creativity for decades, is shared here with director Zachary Heinzerling on BYOD.

Ondi Timoner hosts Heinzerling and through clips from the movie they discuss the process of making the story, the beast of creativity, and the poetic relationship between Ushio and Noriko in this uncensored interview.

Watch new episodes of BYOD live each week on Tuesdays at noon on TheLip.TV, or tune in for the archived replay starting here on the following Thursday.

BYOD is hosted by Ondi Timoner, director of “DIG!,” “JOIN US” and “WE LIVE IN PUBLIC,” and has the rare distinction of winning the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance twice. Each week the show explores a different documentary filmmaker or aspect of filmmaking, with special guests and a live Q&A– diving deep into creative process and the business realities of producing and distributing films. Ondi shares her insider views, opinions, and personal stories, welcoming audience participation. BYOD aims to entertain, inform, and elevate documentaries in general by bringing attention to films and film makers that deserve exposure.

Zachary Heinzerling is a director and cinematographer based in Brooklyn, NY. He was the recipient of the Directing award at the 2013 Sundance Film Festival for his feature film debut, CUTIE AND THE BOXER. He has worked on several feature length films for HBO, including 3 Emmy Award winning documentaries as a field producer and camera operator. Zachary participated in the 2011 Berlinale Talent Campus. He also was selected as one of the 25 filmmakers for the Film Society of Lincoln Center and IFP’s Emerging Visions Program during the 2011 NY Film Fest. His films have received grants from Cinereach, Tribeca Film Institute, SF film society, and the Jerome Foundation. Other cinematography credits include the forthcoming feature doc TOWN HALL for PBS.


00:01 Welcome to BYOD.
00:36 Introducing Zachary Heinzerling.
01:55 Approaching the subjects artistically and cinematically.
03:40 Starting the film in 2008 and meeting Ushio and Noriko Shinohara.
06:35 CUTIE AND THE BOXER, Trailer.
08:40 Cameras, stylistic influences and music.
11:30 Noriko’s art, comics and story.
13:44 An R Rating for Nude Art Images.
15:47 CUTIE AND THE BOXER, clip: Noriko Shinohara.
17:04 Filming them for years and the effect on their relationship.
20:20 Bringing their art into view while telling a story.
22:39 Producing the film over several years.
24:35 Staying up late with the Shinoharas.
25:30 CUTIE AND THE BOXER, clip: Ushio and Noriko creating.
26:44 Ushio’s evolution as an artist and the art world.
29:17 Reflecting on the film and diamonds in the rough.
32:50 The editing of the footage and getting it in theaters.
35:38 Telling the story uniquely through cinema.

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