Chris Gore and Alan Ng review “Venom: The Last Dance,” now playing in theaters.
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let's talk venom venom the Last Dance is
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the third film in the I can't believe
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I'm saying this the Venom Trilogy
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starring Tom
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Hardy and of course it's it's a buddy
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movie with
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Venom it's uh I'll just say this the
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first Venom I thought was
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fun interesting concept it's uh I I like
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I remember like the first movie didn't
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love it the second movie for me I can
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barely remember it and this film Allan
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tell us the story really of Venom the
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Last Dance okay
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because I'll just say this before you
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get into the story it's a mess it is a
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mess and all over the place and I'm
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that's why that's why you want me to
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tell the story yeah I want to hear what
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what you got out of it because there
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were plot lines they introduced that
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didn't pay off yeah and then there
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things where they introduced certain
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things where I'm like okay well moving
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on and
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then it it comes back didn't really need
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to tell us the story of Venom Last Dance
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the basic so this is what I figured out
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so there's a uh a powerful symbiote god
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named
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null and he has been banished to to uh
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to some place by the
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Symbiotes uh because he became too evil
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and desired too much power and so they
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banished him along with these creatures
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called xenop
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fages uh which are basically uh weird
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weird computer generated uh lizard fish
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people uh creatures whatever all right
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so he needs to find the what is called
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the Codex key uh in order to be
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least uh and the only way the only codex
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key in existence is the one that exists
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between Eddie Brock played by Tom Hardy
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and Venom voiced by Tom Hardy all right
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and uh so so all these the all these
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creatures are sent out throughout the
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entire galaxy to find the Codex and the
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way it's found it's kind of like Lord of
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the Rings the the way that these
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creatures can find it is if uh If Venom
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and Eddie Brock are in full um full uh
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symbiote mode where you know the entire
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body okay I I have no idea how to
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describe it or what the word is
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symbiosis they're they're one they're
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one so so when they're one that
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activates the Codex which allows
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everyone to find them again just like
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Lord of the Rings uh and uh so when one
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xenophage shows up Venom realizes that
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uh they're in trouble and so now uh now
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Eddie and Venom can no longer be fully
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symbi
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symbiotic um and uh so the movie is yeah
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I know so the movie is about him uh not
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getting
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caught and he has to fight these
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creatures yes and it's a it's a road
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buddy movie yeah I I'll say this um I
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liked the Buddy aspect of it um but it
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was interrupted too much by it was
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interrupted too many times by plot
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yeah it's it's a road movie where
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they're trying to get to New York and
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they go through Vegas and end up in Area
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51 um on the way Eddie uh befriends of
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family and where it's a guy his wife and
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two kids and they want to go to Area 51
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they want to see aliens but they also
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focus on these scientists in the film
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that you don't care about at all that
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have all the other SYM symbiots in like
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some stasis where they can't you know
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they can't form right or go on to a
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they're in cages so to speak yeah
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they're in cages um and Steven Graham
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from the last remember step Graham and
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Carnage in the last movie he's there too
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yeah and she would tell eegor is in it
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as well yeah he's the military guy and
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then Juno temp is the hot the hot sexy
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scientist right and which weird weird
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about chior which I can I hopefully
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hopefully I'm pronouncing is chiel efor
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um he was in Doctor
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Strange so this is a different role for
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him in the Marvel Universe I don't know
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do we care anymore there is a great joke
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at the beginning of the movie multi he
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hates multiverses it's a joke about how
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multiverses suck in the very beginning
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of the film we're back to our normal
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Universe okay they talk about a purple
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guy who snapped half the universe out of
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yeah yeah and in they back to their
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universe or whatever and we don't care
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but she tell eg4 is actually in the
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proper Marvel MCU Universe in dror
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strange right so make of that what you
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will he's now sort of a uh you know
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military guy taking on these creatures
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which are
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undefeatable uh they're really tough to
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beat
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they have a hard time like killing these
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things and truly Venom you get the sense
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that Venom could die from this creature
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that looks like something out of a quiet
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place um I like the the buddy cop buddy
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aspect of this they took a buddy movie
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Road movie being pursued by monsters
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that's the simple way to explain this
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story everything is so stupid and over
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the toop especially when they get to
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Vegas it it gets so dumb I'm like is
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this it's like walking the line of
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Comedy really dumb comedy and horror as
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you see like like random soldiers are
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dispensed by these creatures like by
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being eaten and ground up like a Le uh
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like a you know when they ground up
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trees into a what do they call those
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things that you you put yeah like a food
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processor or a sa yeah yeah keep going
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or sausage making machine or whatever
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they they spit out the blood the other
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side it's gross so people go in and come
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out as ground beef um kind of nuts but
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uh and I'm watching Tom Hardy I'm like
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he had to say this with nothing around
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him we're seeing that all the digital
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effects there's the opening scene which
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was in the trailer he takes on these
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thugs and saves these dogs right I don't
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know if you if you I don't know if you
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stayed to the credits but say to the
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very end there's a mid credit scene and
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a very very very end credit scene yes
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the point I was making was is Tom
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Hardy's a co- writer or co- story and a
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and a producer I don't know what that
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means but he is slightly he somewhat
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invested in this
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movie which is telling yeah but I just
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was like I mean did they know this would
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be the last one so I think so they just
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I mean they they open themselves up to
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sequels that we don't want or care about
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exactly and even a friend of mine said
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bring
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tissues I know he said that I'm like no
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he said you're gonna get choked up
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there's a moment at the end I won't ruin
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it
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where they obviously want you to feel
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something
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yeah it's so ridiculous I was like I
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didn't I was like no you're not going to
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get that out it's so done you know it's
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nothing's really original about this
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movie um the the whole thing where all
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the Symbiotes come alive and do their
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thing it's like all right well I guess
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we have to do this um I I just felt
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disconnected from this movie the entire
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time like I'm back I'm sitting back
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watching this movie for the sole reason
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of being being able to talk about it the
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next morning and um you know like I like
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I like this relationship between venom
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and and Eddie Brock but they open they
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they so the opening scene is about
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establishing this relationship and it's
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him uh making drinks mixing drinks and
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I'm like this is just the dumbest thing
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who thought of this and and the way Tom
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Hardy looks while he's doing it is like
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uh is like he's uncomfortable working
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around a green screen with CG uh like he
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doesn't know where to look he just kind
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of stands her like a like adult and um I
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I disagree I think he pulls it off what
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I was impressed by is that you know it's
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green screen and AR's like doing and
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it's all augmented CG after the fact but
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I gotta give him credit for what this
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was Tom Hardy went for it yeah I mean it
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it it in the end the the movie as a
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whole doesn't work yeah but yeah it says
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something about it says something about
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him to say I'm in the world's worst
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movie but I'm going to give it 100 per.
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and that's what well that's what you
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that's what you should that's what you
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should that's what you should do a
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professional actor should do that
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absolutely I I'll just say it's like
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I'll say this like we can sit here and
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and piss on the movie and there's a
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thing where your shoes get pissed on
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it's like they do every gross joke you
9:57
can imagine with the concept except but
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it's no I'll say this all the dumb
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things that happen in the movie are no
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more or less dumb than what happens in
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the comics you know what I mean dumb
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things like this also happen in the
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comics so you could say and I'm not as
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familiar with the Venom Comics as I
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should be I'll just say that like I've
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seen some really dumb things happen in
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comics so like when they turn up in the
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movies I'm like well to be fair lots of
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dumb things happen in lots of comics
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like you have to put an issue of a comic
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out every month you're gonna you're
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gonna hit rock bottom you're gonna
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scrape the bottom of the barrel and
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that's what this is is scraping the
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bottom of the barrel for the concept now
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the audience I saw it with had fun if
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you're looking for fun and I'll give the
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movie
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credit it's 90 minutes
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I couldn't believe it's like it's like
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it's a a tight 90 it's not 210 or 220
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you know it's 90 minute film thank you
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for keeping it tight so I can't say I
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wasn't
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entertained so I would say for me it
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gets like a I I think it's to be clear
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also I don't think it's very good I
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think it's ridiculous their plot lines
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completely jettisoned there's stupid
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stupid things that
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happen but I kind of had fun but I'll
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say this the fun was a Madam web like a
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fun right it's this is M The Madam web
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of this is the Madam web of Venom movies
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okay so dumb fun probably a five or a
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six if I had to rate it so your mileage
11:55
may vary probably a not recommend for
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most people but if you thought Madame
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Webb was Dumb and had a good time that's
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exactly what this is it's stupid and
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you're like well I'm kind of having fun
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this is so stupid because the third Act
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is so over the top it is so over the top
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you're like all right well I guess that
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happened with the symbiots possessing
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certain people with weapons and crazy
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[ __ ] happening and I mean it's it's over
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over the tops over the top yeah I mean
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look when when people get the Symbiotes
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they they don't even put the effort into
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making it sound cool like like Tom Hardy
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and Venom right the voice especially the
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female voice was just so annoying it's
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like yeah this is how you distort a
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female voice I hear it in commercials
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and TV and all that stuff the my biggest
12:54
issue with this movie is there's nothing
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original about it there's nothing really
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there's nothing there that says hey
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we're telling a Venom story and and you
13:02
should see it um you know it's very
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Bland uh it's very you know it's like of
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course we have to have the military come
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in of course we have to have a science
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lab of spoil aler here but of course the
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military has to take over the the
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science lab right you know it's like I
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I've I've seen this all before and this
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and being a Venom story doesn't elevate
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it uh in any way which which which is
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should do if you're going to tell a
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story that's been told before uh tell it
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in your way make it unique and make it
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find exciting new things around that
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story and um this doesn't do it you're
13:38
just seeing Tom Hardy as Venom again
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which is fine you know he he does good I
13:43
just wish there was a better story
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surrounding it but you did get the
13:46
bucket if you would show it to
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us that's the good bucket is that I mean
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look at that bucket AMC did a different
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bucket I I want one I honestly I do want
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one of those okay I'll stop by but no
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wait a second Alan there was a musical
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number that didn't sway
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you oh gosh I even forgot about it what
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was what was the song the musical number
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the dance number that's right that that
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scene and that
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character uh I forget the actress's name
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yeah is pgy Peggy Lou she plays Mrs Chen
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right but her character seems so out of
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it's like this this is The evolutionary
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jump of this character and I'm like
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that's just too much her character is
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made to appeal to the Chinese market yes
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this movie will do very well in China
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yeah in fact I'm pretty sure that's
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where this movie will get most of its
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money overseas so what is your final
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verdict mine is a five or a six mine's
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Madam web level fun but dumb movie in
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the end mine's a four uh I've never see
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it again and I I'm already forgetting
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it yeah what happened in the movie I
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can't believe I'm more generous but but
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I again it was the audience made it fun
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I will I will not see this movie again
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either well the first movie is about
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their relationship and it's all about
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their relationship in this movie you
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know it's the third one so the exploring
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the relationship has been played out and
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it feels like it's played out at this
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time it's like okay if this is the end
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of the third if the third movie is the
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end of this
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relationship that's how it's going to
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play out and um you know even even that
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wasn't original at all now so do you
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recommend it or not no okay mine is a
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bare recommend but if you if you had fun
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at Madam web you will have fun here so I
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had more fun at Madam web let's put it
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that way I I Madam Webb was terrible and
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I had fun the two things can coexist
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yeah exactly Sydney Sweeny
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