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okay Allan tell me yeah you better
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explain this one because I'm
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uh this one's not an easy one to explain
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I it's it's maybe the simplest to
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explain you know all right well conclave
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is about uh Cardinal Lawrence whose job
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facilitate the election of a new pope
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uh uh Cardinal Lawrence is played by Ray
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fines in the film and there's also some
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I mean this is a like a Powerhouse cast
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John Lithgow Stanley Tucci Isabella
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rosalini I mean amazing cast of actors
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all Cardinals and uh V various levels of
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of religious station and they're voting
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for a new pope the film this is from
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Edward Berger who directed the film All
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Quiet on the Western Front it is a
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tension filled Thriller and I'll say
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while it has the religious background
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you don't need to be religious or even
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care about religion to get into this
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story it's really almost like it's
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almost like a mafia film all these
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different families and factions vying to
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be voted the new pope and you see the
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the fetishizing of I know a little bit
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of this even though I'm not Catholic
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like I know that like the smoke coming
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from you know the tower that's when you
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hear the new pope has been elected but
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they go through this process people are
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vying you see um different alliances
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formed and broken Secrets Revealed John
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Lithgow character may have a dark past
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Stanley tuci and Isabella
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rosolini uh is really great as a nun um
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Rines is fantastic so I was really
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standoffish to see this film I was like
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Allan he covers any movie that's
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religious that's his territory I'll
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is It's a thriller is what this is and I
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really got got into it it was it was
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Stanley Tui is great John litha
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fantastic and the the sort of uh ritual
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of voting for Pope I've never seen that
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ever portrayed I did interview Ed Edward
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Berger it's on our our interviews
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Channel and um a lot of that is based on
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kind of what you know but you know they
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the way they filmed it it's chef's kiss
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amazing cinematography so um this is I
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feel like maybe in the marketing they
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need to better um explain it's it's more
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of a thriller and again feels like
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almost a mafia crime family without the
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violence but I really loved conlay what
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Alan yeah you liked it better than I did
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um I think guess the best way for me to
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start is just saying I'm not Catholic
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and uh I am I'm very ignorant in the
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Catholicism and I think that played into
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me getting into this film because a lot
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of stuff going on a lot of politics
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going on that I don't understand or I'm
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not aware of and so you know get it I
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have a I have you know a very Outsiders
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Catholicism and I just didn't feel
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myself feeling the tension that was
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trying to be built here a lot of this
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had to do with you know you're playing a
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game of uh of voting where you know the
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goal is to get consensus and that's what
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this movie kind of is and you know
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there's there's a bit of uh underhand
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handedness and treachery going on uh and
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at points it was like okay whatever uh
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so I get it I I I I get the Thriller
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aspect of it uh it's just I think if I
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knew more about the Catholic church and
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about the politics of the Catholic
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Church I'd probably be more into it than
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I was uh my problem though really is the
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and yeah I can't say anything about the
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ending but I had it was like it was one
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of those moments of where I just thought
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to myself of course of course that well
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but I'll say this the ending will be
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absolutely uh you know I I want to
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mention what I would liken it to but I
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can't because it would give away the
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ending yeah I know it's I'm like it's
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like first of all I may not know much
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about the Catholic church or Catholicism
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but I knew the ending halfway through I
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I knew how this was going to end and
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then to to have the the the ending
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Capper to it was just like okay well
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there you go there's your movie and so
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you know I I'm just not a fan of this
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movie I would never see this movie again
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I no authority to tell Catholics that
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you should see this because you'll learn
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something and I can tell you people who
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don't know anything about the Catholic
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church I would say avoid it because you
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know you're just GNA feel lost at times
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or or just feel this is just an
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iteration of one of these uh you know
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political games of voting and see who
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who comes out on top but I I like
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political Thrillers I agree with you
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about the ending it was sort of a whoa
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kind of they're going there that's
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that's crazy but um I love political
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Thrillers we don't get enough of that
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genre these days I was a little
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standoffish that it had a religious
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backdrop but um it worked for me I'll
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just say it worked for me so I recommend
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it what about you Allan I don't
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recommend it no all right look great
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performances love Rayes and he's great
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in it uh but the story I'm just it's
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hard for me to recommend it based on the
