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mondo68
09-05-2004, 04:23 PM
I've been dying to see this since the first scathing reviews came in from Cannes last year. I'm a little surprised that no one's talking about it here, though I am sure that will change once it gets released everywhere (I guess it's already out in a limited release, though I'm still waiting for it here in Seattle).

Anyone seen it yet?

GiGi
09-07-2004, 09:48 AM
I haven't seen it, but have heard a lot about the oral sex scene. I think sex belongs in porn, and have no desire to see that in a film. Still, I will give it a chance to see if its relevant, but I don't see how pee pee licks fits into any plot of a "real" film.

mondo68
09-07-2004, 11:11 AM
wow

the great wendt
09-12-2004, 03:55 PM
I live in New York. Anybody know where I could get a screening copy of the film? Bootleg? Anything like that? I don't have the money to Subway it through NYC right now when it comes to the Angelika or whatever, so I've been looking for a home video copy. I contacted the European company that produced the film, offering to do some press for it, possibly grab an interview with Gallo and a copy of the film to review, but they never wrote back.

Whomever said that sex belongs in pornography obviously hasn't watched too much pornography in his time. Anyone who has experienced the lackluster results of most adult films (not counting the eros art films of the 70's and the big budget Hollywood-ized porn of today's Digital Playground) would gladly welcome any serious, aesthetic attempt at bringing it to the big screen.

As the arguably self-obsessed but always interesting visionary behind Buffalo '66, Gallo is definitely someone who I would think you could trust to accurately and, furthermore, cinematically portray the act of sex, whether it be oral, missionary or what have you. Then again, I haven't seen the film yet, so I can't really say. I'm just guessing.

In any event, I hope John Cameron Mitchell (Hedwig & The Angry Itch) gets his dream film off the ground soon. He's been working on bringing it to life with a real life cast for the past two years or so. The Sex Film Project, as it has been tentatively titled, revolves around a quartet of neo-Bohemian couples in NYC (hetero, homo, bi, transgender, metrosexual, etc.) and their intimate connections.
Mitchell, as some of you already know, is quite the post-modern romanticist and I trust that he could really do the act of fornication some justice with this project. Then again, maybe not. Who knows?

One thing is for sure. It's a damned shame Stanley Kubrick never got to make his fantasy project, "Blue Movie." Perhaps if the dude had lived, the world would have gotten to see Catherine Zeta-Jones, Nicole Kidman, Johnny Depp and Mira Sorvino passionately entangled in the act of estrus. . .in real time, with real emotion and intensity. Alas, all we are left with is his awesome canon and that last piece "Eyes Wide Shut," the watered-down Warner Bros.-edited version.

Oh, well. The movie is, nevertheless, a glorious example of all that film can be, and a great testament to a enduring genius who, in spite of being dead, can still rock our fucking socks off with masterworks like The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange and, yes, Eyes Wide Shut.

So anyway, does anyone know where I can score that screening copy? Brown Bunny? Anyone? Anyone?

Furious D
09-12-2004, 04:21 PM
Vincent Gallo shocked quite a few in the indie film set by declaring himself a Republican and that he was going to vote for Dubya.

Maybe the Republicans should have invited him to their convention and held a screening of THE BROWN BUNNY for the delegates.

Seeing the faces on the delegates from Kansas and Alabama as the final scene unfolds would be well worth the price of admission.

;) :rolleyes::p

GiGi
09-12-2004, 05:12 PM
Like any person who went through puberty, sexual curiosity, or whatever, I have seen porn. Enough to know it's boring, redundant, and exploitive (to me). Nevertheless, REAL sex does not belong in proper films. If that happens, I feel it will threaten film as a medium and the art will suffer. As sex will always be an industry that will sell (sex sells), we see it slipped in in the most useless places to sell movie tickets. Sex is human nature and something we are all hardwired to be interested in, but a real blow job in a movie? I can't see why it is there other than shock factor. And as an artist, I would like to think I would try to find something more oriignal to express myself other than old fashion shock. Boring.

But that's me. I'll give it a glance as I said and see if it's relevent because I can't judge it without seeing it. I am dissapointed film could take this turn.

El Duderino Diablo
09-12-2004, 09:01 PM
This is nothing new or has everyone forgotten about Maruschka Detmers in Marco Bellochio's Il Diavolo in Corpo (Devil in the Flesh - 1986) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090944/)